Comments on: Crazy Talk http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/ (There are more of us than you think...) Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:40:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: moose http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-229 moose Fri, 09 May 2008 20:07:07 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-229 If i was old enough to vote, I wouldn't. I agree with those quotes at the beginning, and no candidates really fit that. If i was old enough to vote, I wouldn’t. I agree with those quotes at the beginning, and no candidates really fit that.

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By: southernmaledemocrat http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-228 southernmaledemocrat Fri, 09 May 2008 18:28:48 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-228 ^Really?? You would call for McCain to drop out in a reverse situation?? Wow. I wouldn't. Yeah, the partisan politico in me would cackle with glee because it would hurt his campaign. But I would never really think he should drop out. Again, my point is this - NONE of us are in a position to accurately judge Rev. Wright or Obama's relationship to him. We have not sat in those pews for years, we don't know about the other programs and ministries of the church. Tell you what - go take some time and read through as many of Rev. Wright's sermons as possible. Read through the entire sermons that were blasted all over the Net but edited down as soundbites. Then, take some time to talk to members of the church who have gone there for a long time. Find out about various ministry programs. After all that, you MIGHT be in a little better position to judge Rev. Wright. But unless you are a member of the Obama family, you are still going to have no accurate judgement of what their relationship is or how the Rev. may have influenced Barack. This "gotcha" journalism is designed to goad us into making judgements that no one is qualified to make. ^Really?? You would call for McCain to drop out in a reverse situation?? Wow. I wouldn’t. Yeah, the partisan politico in me would cackle with glee because it would hurt his campaign. But I would never really think he should drop out.

Again, my point is this - NONE of us are in a position to accurately judge Rev. Wright or Obama’s relationship to him. We have not sat in those pews for years, we don’t know about the other programs and ministries of the church.

Tell you what - go take some time and read through as many of Rev. Wright’s sermons as possible. Read through the entire sermons that were blasted all over the Net but edited down as soundbites. Then, take some time to talk to members of the church who have gone there for a long time. Find out about various ministry programs.

After all that, you MIGHT be in a little better position to judge Rev. Wright. But unless you are a member of the Obama family, you are still going to have no accurate judgement of what their relationship is or how the Rev. may have influenced Barack.

This “gotcha” journalism is designed to goad us into making judgements that no one is qualified to make.

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By: Undecided http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-220 Undecided Fri, 09 May 2008 01:19:11 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-220 I can not honestly say that it wouldn't effect my view of a caucasian candidate if the situation were reversed. The record is important, but so is the company they keep. It is all part of the full picture. I think many readers of this blog (possibly myself included) would be calling for McCain to drop out and railing against him if the situation were reversed. In the interest of doing my best to have an open mind I have to consider that. I can not honestly say that it wouldn’t effect my view of a caucasian candidate if the situation were reversed. The record is important, but so is the company they keep. It is all part of the full picture.

I think many readers of this blog (possibly myself included) would be calling for McCain to drop out and railing against him if the situation were reversed. In the interest of doing my best to have an open mind I have to consider that.

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By: southernmaledemocrat http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-219 southernmaledemocrat Thu, 08 May 2008 15:48:29 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-219 ^Offense over such remarks is fine. I was offended by what Rev. Wright said. The real question is - how much does that matter, and how much should it effect our view of a given candidate, as opposed to their record, votes, etc. ^Offense over such remarks is fine. I was offended by what Rev. Wright said.

The real question is - how much does that matter, and how much should it effect our view of a given candidate, as opposed to their record, votes, etc.

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By: Undecided http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-217 Undecided Thu, 08 May 2008 11:06:46 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-217 I truly am still undecided and I *try* to look at every issue with an open mind. All I keep coming back to is how I would react and how offended I would be if Dubya or McCain's pastor said similarly incendiary remarks about African-Americans. I truly am still undecided and I *try* to look at every issue with an open mind. All I keep coming back to is how I would react and how offended I would be if Dubya or McCain’s pastor said similarly incendiary remarks about African-Americans.

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By: packpigskinfan25 http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-213 packpigskinfan25 Wed, 07 May 2008 19:26:08 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-213 ^just a website ^just a website

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By: southernmaledemocrat http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-212 southernmaledemocrat Wed, 07 May 2008 15:58:31 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-212 ^I don't exactly know. I think it has something to do with your Wordpress login. Are you prompted for any more information when you login to post? ^I don’t exactly know. I think it has something to do with your WordPress login. Are you prompted for any more information when you login to post?

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By: packpigskinfan25 http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-211 packpigskinfan25 Tue, 06 May 2008 20:36:56 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-211 ok... how do I change that avatar? I am really not a fan of that pink tribal thing! ok… how do I change that avatar? I am really not a fan of that pink tribal thing!

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By: packpigskinfan25 http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-210 packpigskinfan25 Tue, 06 May 2008 14:37:00 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-210 A gimmick it certainly is. People hear about it and think "OH! What a GOOD idea!" Yeah- if you drive the #18 M&M car at Daytona!! Why not get to the root of all of it, and fix the damn problem starting with the oil companies, and ending with an efficant car that runs off of humane waste or something?! We could do away with a bit of that, right? I have actually eaten at Skylight before, great Q! I guess I am a Wilbers fan through and through though. Its not the most consistant stuff(bad managment, and an owner who is getting to old to care), but is great when its on. Plus, you know those delicious pieces of skin they put in at the Skylight? If your REAL nice, they will do it at Wilbers too! ;) A gimmick it certainly is. People hear about it and think “OH! What a GOOD idea!”
Yeah- if you drive the #18 M&M car at Daytona!! Why not get to the root of all of it, and fix the damn problem starting with the oil companies, and ending with an efficant car that runs off of humane waste or something?! We could do away with a bit of that, right?

I have actually eaten at Skylight before, great Q! I guess I am a Wilbers fan through and through though. Its not the most consistant stuff(bad managment, and an owner who is getting to old to care), but is great when its on. Plus, you know those delicious pieces of skin they put in at the Skylight? If your REAL nice, they will do it at Wilbers too! ;)

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By: southernmaledemocrat http://southernmaledemocrat.com/2008/05/04/crazy-talk/#comment-209 southernmaledemocrat Tue, 06 May 2008 14:04:55 +0000 http://southernmaledemocrat.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-209 Thanks for the comments everyone. Anne - Just because someone has a perogative, doesn't make it the right or smart thing to do. It could be my perogative to eat barbecue all day!! Then where would I be? (besides 300 lbs?) :) Packpigskin - Many thanks on the compliments. Obama is dead on about the gas tax. It's a gimmick designed to win elections rather than solve the problem. That's unfortunately what our system is set up to do - give is short term, feel good solutions over long term, proactive ones that require a little sacrifice from everyone. You'll note though - I didn't say Wilber's was bad. In fact - I ate at Wilber's the night before I ate at Skylight. That's good stuff. I would urge you to try Skylight and see if you agree with me. Thanks for the comments everyone.

Anne - Just because someone has a perogative, doesn’t make it the right or smart thing to do. It could be my perogative to eat barbecue all day!! Then where would I be? (besides 300 lbs?) :)

Packpigskin - Many thanks on the compliments.
Obama is dead on about the gas tax. It’s a gimmick designed to win elections rather than solve the problem. That’s unfortunately what our system is set up to do - give is short term, feel good solutions over long term, proactive ones that require a little sacrifice from everyone.

You’ll note though - I didn’t say Wilber’s was bad. In fact - I ate at Wilber’s the night before I ate at Skylight. That’s good stuff. I would urge you to try Skylight and see if you agree with me.

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